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Title: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: JayS on May 08, 2012, 03:09:31 pm
I threw this up on NYSpeed and never thought to include it here. Anyone looking for a boatload more seat time than autocross should check this out. Sure, no official timing and scoring but chasing someone down and forcing them to let you pass is just a good as beating them by a few tenths. :)


For those of you not familiar, Nelson Ledges Road Course has many open to the public track days throughout the year. The cost is $130 per driver and the track is about 3 hours from Buffalo. It's a pretty forgiving course in terms of runoff but it is a little bumpy. I went last year and can say despite the track map looking rather simple it's a pretty challenging course because of the higher speeds for several of the corners compared to say Dunnville or TMP.

The event I attended they broke into A and B groups, with A being well track prepped cars with experienced drives and B being everything else. I ran in B with my stock road tire equipped GTO and though I was passing a lot of people I never found the traffic restricting. There are two straights where passing is allowed so you're never behind someone for long. There were 6 official 20 minute sessions the day I went but I missed one because I had to run out for gas. There was also a final session where A and B mixed because so many people had gotten their fill but I found 5 20 minute sessions to be enough for me. What I'm saying is you'll get a lot of seat time for your $130.

Here's their schedule for Fun Days this year:

Friday, April 27, 2012
Sunday, May 06, 2012
Friday, May 11, 2012
Saturday, May 12, 2012
Friday, May 18, 2012
Sunday, June 03, 2012
Friday, June 08, 2012
Sunday, July 15, 2012
Sunday, July 22, 2012
Friday, July 27, 2012
Friday, August 31, 2012
Sunday, September 09, 2012
Sunday, September 16, 2012
Friday, October 12, 2012
Sunday, October 28, 2012

I'm definitely going to the one on 5/12 and the weather looks to be perfect. Last time I left Williamsville around 6am and had more than enough time to get there and setup before the 9:30 drivers meeting. If anyone is interested in a caravan down there I'd be willing to meet up at the service exit just south of Buffalo on the 90.

If you've never done any sort of track driving this probably isn't the event for you though I'm sure the seasoned autocross guys would be fine. There is limited instruction available compared to some of the HPDE schools at places like Watkins Glen. I did their abbreviated Nelson School that they offer at the Fun Days since I had never run there and it was just you following the instructor for a lap then him following you for a lap and about 20 minutes of classroom time with some hints about different lines. Maybe it would have been more involved had the 2 of us in the school not been to other track days but I didn't get the feeling these were set up for a lot of hands on coaching.

They had no issues with taking a passenger as long as they had an approved helmet and had signed off on the waiver. There was no fee for bringing a spectator/passenger.

Some in car footage for those who want to see what the track is like:

Title: Re: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: rushman on May 08, 2012, 04:10:58 pm
Dude, no lifting for the kink!
Title: Re: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: JayS on May 09, 2012, 07:37:24 am
Ha... I have to drive that thing home too ya know? Coming into the kink at 120 on street tires makes it tough to stay in the throttle. The car could probably do it but at that speed I seem to be hitting some sort of self preservation fear wall. :)

New springs all around since my last trip there and I'm not squatting the ass end and maxing the camber all the time now so that may help.
Title: Re: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: JayS on May 14, 2012, 08:24:33 am
Had the corners mixed up. I'm definitely not lifting through the kink. Carrying 105-108 through 11 according to my buddy riding shotgun. That's up from mid 90's last time I was there. He also said 125 through the straight so the GPS on my phone might not be sampling often enough. Audio is pretty bad because I forgot to switch the GoPro from the waterproof case to the vented case.


Had a great time as always. Was hoping to see some SCCA people there... maybe next time. If anyone sees some good used race tires in 245/45/17 let me know. I'm starting to melt my street tires so stepping up to track tires is a must now.


Title: Re: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: JimPerrin on May 14, 2012, 11:40:03 am
I've got some 275/40/17s if you think you can fit them on your wheels.
Title: Re: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: jmercado567 on May 14, 2012, 01:25:37 pm
Awesome, im in for one of them for sure...  very nice and affordable
Title: Re: Lapping at Nelson Ledges 5/12
Post by: JayS on May 15, 2012, 09:05:18 am
I've got some 275/40/17s if you think you can fit them on your wheels.

Thanks for the offer but I'd need to roll the fenders to clear those.
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