New Classing Structure for 2012

[JimPerrin]

You *could* do that, but you could never guarantee that everyone will do what they are supposed to, and you will have a bunch of people with established number which conflict.

[brucejones]

The concept has great merit Jim.  Thanks for doing a ton of work on it.  In the end not everyone likes something and it is  inevitably imperfect.  WNY has for many years dared to experiment and tries hard to make things better.  You are part of the solution!  BTW we don't need more classes we need more drivers.

[mistrtwo]

I'm really surprised that this topic has not received much in the way of comments. Is there that little interest, or doesn't anybody read the site, or ?

I like to sit and watch everyone else . But seriously I like the new setup.

[brucejones]

I like to watch too Carl.  Especially the hard chargers.  Hey any chance that the WNY gurus could put on a WNY regional version of an EVO school?  I think that we have at least 5-6 well qualified instructors..

[brucejones]

One final thought:  All of my friends drive cars.  My best friends drive them well!  Good night all.

[conevadr]

I'm glad to see that FLR and WNY are staying more or less in sync on this.  No rush for an answer, but do we know what the index identifier is for each of the new classes? 

George M (was RCS91, now ?CS91 & RTR91)

[JimPerrin]

Just run your regular class and I'll take care of the indexing on the computer.

[JimPerrin]

I only ask that if you are running Pro or Novice, to include the P or N. 

[99_civic_si]

MeLikes!  Hopefully the stock r-comp using ringers will jump to pro if they haven't already and it will attract n00bs and intermediates more.  For the most part nothing will effectively change with how most people ran last season, and it should be more appealing to some peoples eyes on paper.

[JayS]

Hey, speaking of classing. Where do I end up in the 05 GTO with just lowering springs? Running street tires as usual.

[JimPerrin]

Stock GTO -> FS
w/springs -> STU, ESP, SM?

I'd probably go with STU.

[wrx26509]

I have a wrx with 17x8 wheels (stock is 17x7 or 7.5) but with the stock 225 -45 r17 tire, and a catback exhaust. Last year I ran NDS, would this still be the same? and also what change in class would a tune require.

Thanks

[JayS]

Have any of you ever looked at NASA's vehicle classing system? Their's seems far superior to SCCA's. I'm guessing moving toward a system that doesn't force people with a few minor mods to jump into classes where the cars have every mod allowed by that class would do wonders for participation numbers. Pretty sure the guy who just posted with nothing but a tune will end up in SM going against some majorly prepped vehicles. Under NASA rules as long as his tune used 100% of the OEM ECU it's not even considered a mod.

"43) OEM ECU/PCM reprogramming or chip (must use OEM ECU/PCM box/housing/hardware) "

http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/nasa-x/NASA-X_Classes.pdf

[JimPerrin]

But a stock wrx's power delivery is terrible.  Once you put a stage 2 tune on it, it IS a different car and deserves to be reclassed.

wrx26509 - I wrote a classing guide specifically for subarus over at buffaloscooby.com:  http://www.buffaloscooby.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15096

[fairgentleman Z]

The NASA system is still going to reward the person that does the fewest mods and puts on Hoosiers at the widest width possible to avoid going over 20 points.

And that is still going to be frustrating to anyone else not doing the same.